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Post by Dan Sullivan on May 25, 2008 15:54:05 GMT -5
For those who don't know why King William Regal was fired on the last Raw well it's because the dumb ass went & got suspended for the 2nd time due to the Wellness Policy which means he has some type of drug in his system.
I know people with drug problems & that it takes a long time to get over them BUT he's been to rehab WITH WWE paying for itat least once if not twice so JUST like Jeff Hardy this is a case of somebody about ready to get the biggest push of his career FUCKING it up because of drugs.
It was damn near 100 % that Jeff Hardy would be WWE champion sometime this year but now it may be another 3 or so years before Vince trusts him. Regal may NEVER get a chance like this again as I didn't know if they were going to give him the WWE title but he was at least planned to have a fued with Triple H for the title & he was suppossed to win his fued with Mr. Kennedy.
I've never been a huge fan of Jeff, as I always like Matt more, but William Regal I'm a huge fan of as he's the same type of wrestler as Beniot & Finlay as I love when they wrestle because they REALLY kick the shit out of each other & Regal did that alot when he was back in WCW so I am heavily pissed off that he screwed up his career yet again.
And I just read this on the one site I go to that I really trust for insider news that my other favorite wrestler, Chavo Guerrero, is actually 1 strike away from getting fired due to the Wellness policy as well which shocks the fuck out of me as I would of thought after seeing the hell Eddie went through in his life because of them that Chavo would stay clear of them as for those who don't know if you get popped 3 times then you will be automaticly fired so if Chavo, Jeff or Regal fuck up 1 more time then they are gone from the WWE.
Here is the atricle that talks about Chavo.
source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
-- Dave Meltzer confirms in the latest issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that former ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero is actually one drug test failure away from an automatic termination from World Wrestling Entertainment, not two. The other two wrestlers in the company in the same uneasy position are of course Jeff Hardy and William Regal.
As we all know, Guerrero, along with several other WWE wrestlers were named by Sports Illustrated to be given illegal steroids not in compliance with the company's drug testing policy. Guerrero received somatropin (Growth Hormone), nandrolone (anabolic steroid commonly known as Deca-Durabolin), and anastrozole (the drug used to prevent side effects such as "manboobs" during a steroid cycle) between April 2005 and May 2006 through Signature Pharmacy, an alleged illegal Internet drug distribution network. Because purchasing drugs through the Internet is in direct violation of WWE's Wellness policy, Guerrero was suspended.
Unlike the other WWE wrestlers busted in the Signature Pharmacy scandal last fall, they only sat out for 30 days, whereas Guerrero mysteriously sat on the sidelines for just a shade over 60 days. Guerrero was officially suspended on Thursday, August 30 and returned to action on November 3, 2007, which was a Saturday night SmackDown/ECW house show. That was the first scheduled WWE show a wrestler on a 60-day suspension from the August 30th suspensions would have been permitted to appear on. Apparently, Guerrero's first suspension quietly slipped under the radar some time ago and went unreported.
Back in July 2006, after a number of SmackDown stars went down with Wellness related issues the week before the Great American Bash pay-per-view, which caused havoc on the card, Vince McMahon made the decision to not pull future suspendees from television because he didn't want sudden suspensions to ruin his heavily-hyped pay-per-view cards. Instead, future suspensions called for wrestlers to miss a month's worth of downside pay, not to mention their pay-per-view bonus. Also, the suspendees would be pulled from all house shows for a 30-day period. The new rule allowed Randy Orton to wrestle Hulk Hogan at SummerSlam, who was suspended in August 2006 for a Wellness Policy violation (he failed for steroids). Last July, WWE reverted the policy to completely ban suspended talent from television as well in light of the aftermath following the Chris Benoit double-murder/suicide.
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Post by insane on May 25, 2008 16:01:21 GMT -5
You can't really call Chavo a dumbass...
I mean look at what all he has had to go through over the past few years. His uncle, who he has wrestled with for years, is found dead in a bathroom with a toothbrush in his mouth. And his best friend, Chris Benoit, is now a murder suicide case...
Maybe he was off the stuff, but this time he just had a big issue with this stuff and couldn't take it anymore...
So, I see no reason in calling Chavo a dumbass
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Post by Dan Sullivan on May 27, 2008 12:36:24 GMT -5
If it was a one time thing then I'd of said "yeah the hell of a year got to him" but once you do something like this more then once even when he's in the unque job where they send you FOR FREE to rehab which most jobs won't he had every opportunity to get over it the first time.
So for doing it again, as from what I read in the story the 2nd time was at last years Great American Bash so for Chavo it is not recent it's just recently they found out about it, yes I believe it's justified to call him a dumbass for further tarnishing my once absolute respect & joy of his & Eddie's talent as well as the great Guerrero wrestling family legacy.
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Post by insane on May 27, 2008 15:14:36 GMT -5
He didn't tarnish anything... He just had a few issues and maybe this made him feel better... I mean knowing how drugs has almost caust you a career, I see where you come from... But seriously, some people have hard times getting over things than other people... Not to mention that no matter what their personal life, the main thing that should count is their in ring performance.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on May 30, 2008 4:40:58 GMT -5
Just to ensure anybody who reading what Murdock said understands what he means I have never & will never use drugs, I like beer that's it, as what he means is that my wifes drug problem is what almost cost me my military career.
And for a person who has been fighting with her for over 2 years WITHOUT her going to rehab to get her over her problem I understand how hard it is with no medical help. Chavo & fuck even wrestlers that were fired like X-Pac & Scott Hall still have WWE paying for their stints in rehab so they have everything that my wife did not have so again with everything Chavo has went through YES once I would of been ok with it & given him a second chance but on his second one though all bets are off.
Hell I still wear a Chris Benoit t-shirt even though a couple people have bitched at me for what he did to his family, which of course is 100 % fucked up & should of never happened, but I still can love the wrestling of the person even though personally I hate what they did with Eddie & Chavo I still love the wrestling but personally I feel they are wrong.
With the Guerrero's though it's like each time I want to trust the family something else happens to tarnish my feelings for them as I've loved Eddie & Chavo since WCW when Chavo had Pepe & Eddie was the leader of the LWO all through everything they have been through in the WWE as even though it ended up not doing much I was happy as fuck when Chavo won the ECW title as he had some good matches with CM Punk & I was hoping if he lost it at least he could go on to be US or Intercontential champion as I was disgusted when they had Kane beat him in 3 seconds or whatever the fuck at Mania but to find out EVEN AFTER seeing what years of drug abuse did to Eddie & him NOT STOPPING it it pisses me off knowing that he could end up dieing & everybody will be crying like they did when Eddie died as I never wish death on anybody but IF it were to happen I can't say I'd be sad.
He doesn't just have the history of wrestlers & drugs BUT it's in his own fucking family that his uncle died should of been a reality shock but if Chavo continues down this road nobody should be sorry for somebody like that.
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Post by steve on May 30, 2008 5:30:07 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying, but seriously... Him using drugs has no affect on his in-ring abilities...
And for Benoit, that was just a tragedy waiting to happen. Seriously anyone that's always quiet, staying calm, and well mannered USUALLY has something planned...
Back to the Guerreros... Chavo Guerrero may have fucked up, but then again, look at all of these other wrestlers who do it and don't get caught. Triple H does steroids, I'm sure of it. Batista definately does it. It's just that Vince is busting the "curtain jerkers" because they have some exposure, but not a big exposure... And who knows, maybe someone planted that shit. All I know is, I like people for their performance in the ring, not for what their life is about.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on May 30, 2008 23:06:32 GMT -5
Randy Orton is not a curtain jerker & he was busted for the Wellness program, same thing with Jeff Hardy as I highly doubt Vince would of wanted him busted after SIX MONTHS of pushing him as Hardy was expected to be WWE champ sometime during this year, so you saying it's just "curtain jerkers" is wrong.
Triple H has gone down since the Wellness policy started as I'm sure he & Batista & a shit load of others used steroids in the past but right now I don't know. Batista is not doing anything important since before Wrestlemania so I don't think Vince would take Hardy down but not Batista as the only one that I think Vince maybe would allow to cheat the system is Triple H due to being a member of the family.
Steroids affects their in ring performance which is why it matters to me as they help you to do more then you'd be able to just off of working out alone. So yeah I'm not going to stop enjoying the great matches they had in the past but if they keep having issues it lessens my respect for these people & thus even if they have 5 star matches why would I want to enjoy watching something that they maybe won't of been able to do without the steroids.
And for Benoit just because he's quiet doesn't mean he's going to go crazy as shit I lead a quiet life for the most part. I'm a funny man at work just because I kinda have too as it gets me out of trouble but once I take the uniform off I chill by myself & have been caller a loner ever since I was a kid. That doesn't mean I'm going to one day go crazy & hunt you all down to slit your throats for not helping me to get shows up on time or for annoying the fuck out of me at times as Benoit was a unque situation.
The multiple concussions mixed with steriods is the reason for his going off the deep end so it was half his fault & half medically caused. Him being quiet & putting the contest of "quiet people turn into family killers" isn't right in my view.
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Post by steve on May 31, 2008 5:47:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but look at how every single one of the killing spree lovers are described as "He was so normal. Calm, quiet, and respectful."
Now I'm not saying ALL quiet people do that as in reality I'm as quiet as they come, but the statistics don't lie my friend.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on May 31, 2008 6:55:54 GMT -5
I'd love to see the stat's as MAYBE 3 or 4 cases that were eggagerated through the media to make people think it's the norm when most crazy fuckers were people who showed signs of it in the past but either the parents or the people close to them or medical people failed which lead to the tragedy happening.
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