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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 15, 2007 20:55:01 GMT -5
I recently downloaded the Triple Cage match from WCW when David Arquette(from the Scream Movies & Ready to Rumble) was World Champion & turned on his friend DDP in the end to help Jeff Jarret win which lead me to want to do this.
Who do you feel was the best & worst champions of all time as at least try to do 3 for each promotion as if you have more that's great.
WWWF/WWF/E Heavyweight Title(Title that is now on Raw):
Best Champions:
1. (2-Time Champ) Bruno Sammartino (Longest title reign ever: May 17th, 1963 to January 18th, 1971)
2. (6-Time Champ) Hulk Hogan ( Man who made Professional Wrestling in the WWF in the 80's. Had a 4-Year title reign from January 1984 to Feb. 1988.)
3. (6-Time Champion) Triple H ( My personal favorite)
WCW/WWE World Heavyweight Championship(Title now on Smackdown)
(Funny note that depending on which site you look at either Lex Luger or Ric Flair is the last NWA champ & 1st WCW World champ.)
1. (Counting NWA 14-Time) Ric Flair (Greatest champion ever in my view.
2. (Counting NWA before TNA 7-Time) Sting (Used to be awsome as I even liked some of his matches as the blonde Sting)
3. (Tie) (5 Time) Hulk Hogan, Booker T & Triple H(All 3 great in their own times as if WCW didn't close Booker T was going to be the next big star)
ECW World Title:
1. (Only 5 Time Champ) The Sandman (Great matches & angles with Raven & Tommy)
2. (3 Time ) Shange Douglas (Great wrestler)
3. (2 Time) Raven (My own personal favorite)
NWA-TNA World Champion:
1. (6-Time) Jeff Jarret (Yes his family is the promotor but he is a great wrestler)
2. (3-Time) Kurt Angle (Haven't been around long but he's purely one of the greats)
3. (1 time) Raven (Yes it was only one time but with the amount of build up they had to this & EVEN THOUGH they ruined it afterwards I feel he deserves to be here)
Now for the Worst:
WWWF/WWF/E Heavyweight Title:
1. Vince McMannon (Owner winning title bad)
2. Kane (Only having it a day was stupid)
3. (2-time) Sycho Sid (Never should of been champion)
WCW/WWE World Championship:
1. David Arquette (He's a actor)
2. Vince Russo (part of creative)
3. (2- time) The Giant (Won the title in his debut match vs. Hogan which was stupid)
ECW World Title:
1. Vince McMannon (completely ended any hope of ECW being a success)
2. Tommy Dreamer (One of the hardest workers & when he finally wins the belt for him to lose it right after to Credible on the same show is wrong)
3. (2 Time) Jimmy Snuka (Too old to have been champion)
NWA-TNA World Champion:
1. Ron Killings (no reason to have him champion)
2. Abyss (same as Ron)
3. Rhino (Held the belt for 2 days which was pointless)
If this becomes popular I may try to do one for Womens & tag titles soon but here is my thoughts & hopefully others will find this interesting to talk about as well.
I only did the top promotions so that most of us can chime in since not all of us knows alot about the indy promotions or those in Japan or Mexico.
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Post by steve on Dec 16, 2007 0:17:45 GMT -5
well I'm not great with looking up the amount of title reigns, but I know what I like and dislike as champion...
Good -WWF/E (Raw) Championship
1. Macho Man Randy Savage: I'm sorry but I'm a HUGE Megapowers fan
2. Hulk Hogan: Can you body slam Andre? Can you have classic rivalries with people like Ultimate Warrior, Macho Man, Piper, The Rock, Orton, HBK, and on and on and on...
3. Randy Orton: Yes he is recently crowned, but in recent times, he's been bringing in a lot of fans due to the fact that the gold is now on a solid heel. When it was on Cena, the crowd was half the size it is now...
-WWF/E World (Smackdown, WCW, and NWA) Championship
1. DDP: The REAL People's Champion. The Rock would later use this gimmick, although DDP had it first... Plus, who could forget the old "That's not a bad thing... That's a good thing!" gimmick? FUCK YOU DAVID! FUCK YOU! And that doesn't mean David Arnold.
2. Chris Jericho: Merged this belt to make the Undisputed Championship. Got to give credit for the first Undisputed Champion.
3. Harley Race: HA! Didn't know I watched him did you? Fact is, I didn't... The fact is, I went on Youtube and watched some of his matches and they were pretty cool.
-ECW World Championship
1. Shane Douglas: The man is the first Extreme World champion and last Eastern Champion. Got to mean something
2. Dan Muraco: Another guy I looked up on Youtube... he isn't that bad...
3. CM Punk: He's one of my favorites.
-NWA World Championship
1. AJ Styles: He was fun to watch back when TNA had weekly PPV shows... Although I watched them for free cause I had, like, yeah.
2. Shane Douglas: He held this title too
3. Dusty Rhodes: I like him, that's why.
-ROH Title
1. Low-KI: KI-DRIVER!
2. CM Punk: He's one of my favorites
3. Samoa Joe: He's fat and all but he's still cool...
The one worst champ of all time
JOHN CENA.... HE'S A FUCKING QUEER AND NEEDS TO JUMP OFF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING AND LAND ON SOLID CONCRETE.
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Post by Cannibal Lecter on Dec 16, 2007 12:34:57 GMT -5
Note: These are in no particular order.
Good Jerry "The King" Lawler - Do I really need to explain this?
Jeff Jarrett - Same as Lawler. Think about it.
Bret Hart - The Hitman! If you need to be told, you aren't a wrestling fan.
Sting - Not much should be needed here.
Kurt Angle - Why the fuck not? Fourth WWE Grand Slam Champion, second TNA Triple Crown Champion, AND the IWGP Third Belt Champion.
Triple H - The Game! Second WWE Grand Slam Champion. 11 World Title reigns, and so what if one was just for a bit when he had three matches in one night?
The Rock - The People's Champion. WCW Champion twice and WWE Champion seven times. Sixth WWE Triple Crown Champion. This should need no explaining.
Edge - If you don't agree, fuck you. This man got the WWE Title off of Cena twice! And he brought in the highest ratings for RAW in years! Even if all of you bullshit and say "I just tuned in to see who took the title from him" or some shit... that means he's doing he's fucking job right! He's supposed to make you hate him.
Chris Jericho - First WWE Undisputed Champion. And that was a great moment in history.
Bad John Cena - The absolute worst man in wrestling history. Very overrated. And for no good damned reason. It's the same shit from the guy. And there's people way more talented and they get jack shit while Cena gets almost year reigns when he sucks.
The Big Show - The man fucked ECW in the ass as the champ. That shit was gay.
Now, X... Kane having the belt one night doesn't make him a bad champ. It just makes it a dumb action of WWE's part. This is as far as the character being champs, not how gay the decision was to make it a shit reign.
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Post by /*/Hayden\*\ on Dec 16, 2007 14:30:15 GMT -5
WWE Title:
Good
Bruno Sammartino... If you argue against Da Brune, I'll stab you. In the heart. For real.
Ivan Koloff... it was a short reign, but the dude nearly caused a riot.
Superstar Billy Graham... Longest reigning Heel Champion, the inspiration for Jesse Ventura AND Hulk Hogan
Bob Backlund... The most gifted technical wrestler of all-time. Maybe even more so than Benoit.
Hulk Hogan... 'Nuff said.
Bret Hart... The Excellence of Execution
Steve Austin... of the same mold as Hogan
Bad
Shawn Michaels... he was always more entertaining CHASING after the title than actually being Champion. One of my all-time favorites, hands down, still.
Sid Vicious... No... just... no.
Ultimate Warrior... Meant to take Hogan's place. Epic Failure
Yokozuna... World Champion who couldn't wrestle more than 15 minutes without needing an oxygen tank. A wrestler his size should never be utilized as a World Champion, just a highly built up monster for a Huge face to squash.
Diesel... Kevin Nash, before his personality came out.
Vince McMahon... No! Bad Vince.
WCW Championship
Good
Sting... Awesome babyface. WCW's Hulk Hogan... until they brought in the ACTUAL Hulk Hogan. D'oh.
Ric Flair... Whooo!
DDP... The fans wanted it!
Lex Luger... Back when he wasn't a drug addict.
Bad
Ron Simmons... DAMN!
Hulk Hogan... "Hey, why find our own identity when we can steal WWE's?"
Goldberg... They dropped the ball here. Period.
TNA (Including NWA in TNA) Champion
Good
AJ Styles... Before he was Christian's sidekick he was TNA's breakout star.
Jeff Jarrett... Great heel Champion.
Ron Killings... Before he was Pacman's sidekick
Raven... The buildup was AMAZING
Christian Cage... Deserved it
bad
Kurt Angle... Too soon
Rhino... Where is he now?
Ken Shamrock... Chose MMA over TNA
Abyss... Where is he now?
ROH World title
Good
CM Punk... Signed his WWE Contract on the ROH title, that whole angle was amazing.
Samoa Joe... ROH was built on his shoulders
Bryan Danielson... Picked up what Joe left.
Bad
Low-Ki... Left ROH hanging.
Homicide... Jobbed out thanks to TNA
James Gibson... Shortest reign ever.
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