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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 2, 2007 0:44:56 GMT -5
OOC: Finally got back to 10 people voting even though we have at least 5 other people who could of voted but I'm happy.
And if your wondering why certain catagories don't count up to 10 it's because Daredevil didn't vote for certain catagories.
RWC Wrestler of the Month: Cameron Hayden
Vote Count: 8
Reason: Cameron had a perfect month as he won all of his matches including using his rematch clause to become the 1st person to hold the RWC World Heavyweight Tag Team Championship Titles for the 2nd time with his new partner Daredevil as they defeated Viper & Gwen Rose. At Do or Die he was double booked as his team won the Hell on Earth II match vs. The HarKore Warriors to successfully retain the RWC World Tag Team titles as well as make him the 1st RWC superstar to reach the 10 win mark for tag team wins. In the Semi-Main Event of that PPV he defeated Sub Zero to regain the RWC International Championship title that he never lost. He's the leader of the new stable Project TRIDENT that includes Daredevil & Rage.
2nd Place: Tied: Elijah Pyror as well as Cameron/Daredevil
Vote Count: 1 each (1 person thought Cam & Dare were tied as the best this month)
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RWC Roleplayer of the Month: Anthony Phoenix(2nd month)
Vote Count: 4
2nd Place: Tied: Cameron Hayden & Daredevil
Vote Count: 3 votes each
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RWC Impact of the Month: Anthony Phoenix getting stripped of the RWC World Heavyweight Championship title at Do or Die by a council vote.
Vote Count: 3
2nd Place: Tied: Rages Return, The formation of Project TRIDENT & Daredevil's return
Vote Count: 2 each
3rd Place: The debut of Freddy The Unknown at Do or Die
Vote Count: 1
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RWC Woman of the Month: Alyssa Phoenix
Vote Count: 7
Reason: Due to Halloween Hatred's tag team match she was injured by David Arnold in October & was on the injured list for every single show this month except for Do or Die. At Do or Die she defeated Ashley Danyell via forfeit to be awarded the RWC World Women's Heavyweight Championship title.
(OOC: I've never done this before & it's not against Sara as she's a great roleplayer but the 7 people who voted for her I have NO fucking clue why you did as she did nothing for the entire month except for at 1 show while Ashley Danyell went 3 & 0 in tag team matches this month as well as was Women's champion throughout the most of it getting up to rank 2 in the Lethal 15. You 7 raped Ashley Danyell for her hard work this month I don't know if it's because your friends with Sara or how you can justify voting for somebody who was MIA for damn near the entire month as starting next month I will enforce a new rule stating you have to explain why you vote for each person. If somebody votes without giving reasons their votes will not count AND if you give me a bullshit reason like (this is the only one I remember as being good or I like this person, etc.) then that vote will not count. Now while close votes in the past that I feel ended for the wrong person I didn't do this because it was a close vote for a landslide win to come for somebody who was gone I felt it was my duty as owner to tell ya'll you need to either start paying fucking attention to who you vote for or don't vote at all as your screwing up the system.)
2nd Place: Tied: Viper & Ashley Danyell
Vote Count: 1 each
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RWC Tag Team/Stable of the Month: Project GENOCIDE
Vote Count: 6
Reason: In their first ever teaming, due to Cameron calling on Daredevil when he used his rematch clause for the tag team titles, they defeated Viper & Gwen Rose to become the RWC World Heavyweight Tag Team Champions. At Do or Die they defeated The HarKore Warriors in Hell on Earth II to successfully retain the RWC World Tag Team titles.
2nd Place; Project TRIDENT
Vote Count: 3
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RWC Newcomer of the Month: Jack Raven
Vote Count: 6
Reason: On the first Mayhem after Halloween Hatred Jack Raven showed up during the Semi-Main Event match to cost his former partner Chris Stevens his match with RWC World Champion Anthony Phoenix. In the following weeks he has been fighting to rid Stevens of the God whom is forcing Stevens to do evil things as at Do or Die Jack made his RWC debut in a TLC match where he defeated Chris Stevens thus ridding him of the God & reforming Intensity X2.
2nd Place: Cashville
Vote Count: 3
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RWC Best Written Match of the Month: Hell on Earth II for the RWC World Heavyweight Tag Team Championship Titles at the Do or Die Pay Per View: November 25th, 2007: Project GENOCIDE(c) vs. The HarKore Warriors
Writer: Weapon-X
Vote Count: 7
2nd Place: Tied: Rage vs. Gwen Rose at the Do or Die PPV(Writer Stephen Murdock) & Elijah Pyror vs. Laura Blaze Biker Chain On A Pole Match at Do or Die(Writer Stephen Murdock)
Vote Count: 1 each
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RWC Fued of the Month: Project TRIDENT vs. The HarKore Warriors & Gwen Rose(3rd month in a row Viper has been a part of this award)
Vote Count: 4
Reason: Basically The HarKore Warriors & Gwen Rose have been on the losing end of Project TRIDENT all month. Started on the first Mayhem after Halloween Hatred as Cameron's 6-Person team defeated the Warriors & Gwen while during that match Daredevil returned to taser Viper which lead to the loss. The next week Viper & Gwen lost the RWC World Tag Team titles to Cameron & Daredevil due to Dave Adams knocking them out with brass knuckles. On week 3 it was Daredevil who defeated Gwen in singles action thanks to the return of Rage who looked like he had respect for everything that Gwen has done in the RWC but then turned on her. At Do or Die Rage defeated Gwen Rose as well as in the Opening Match, with help from Dave Adams who ended up getting a fractured arm due to his interference from Viper, Project GENOCIDE defeated The HarKore Warriors to retain the RWC World tag team titels in Hell on Earch II.
2nd Place: Gwen Rose vs. Project TRIDENT
Vote Count: 2
3rd Place: Tied: Weapon-X vs. David (Jovah) Arnold, Lady Spartans w/ Viper vs. The Perfect Couple & Elijah Pyror & Camryn De Luna vs. Lisa & Freddy the Unknown
Vote Count: 1 each
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OOC: I will keep this unlocked like always so you can comment on the awards for this month.
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Post by phoenix on Dec 2, 2007 0:52:07 GMT -5
Wait as if this was a landslide...aren't you also saying that Ashley deserved the win because she was the Women's champion. Either way but you shouldn't discount someone's vote as if you do we will soon cross over the line of what we so wanted to not cross...what you posted sounded so close to what Danny would say. I say we vote on this measure before it becomes law.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 2, 2007 1:00:28 GMT -5
If common sense makes me like Danny Maher then fine Phoenix as if you vote for somebody you should have a reason for why you voted that way.
This rule only makes you have to state why you are voting for a person but if you want to start a vote on the council fine as any council member who would vote against something this simple & easy to figure out how it's good for us is somebody who doesn't want fair & honest awards in the RWC.
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Post by phoenix on Dec 2, 2007 1:17:28 GMT -5
Look I'm not saying I'm against the rule...In fact I'm for it...I'm only saying that we need to vote on each and every thing that we do if not then what is the council for.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 2, 2007 1:39:44 GMT -5
The council doesn't vote on every rule or every decision as if they did it'd take a week to do every little thing. Do ANYBODY in the council ever second guess or ask to be a part of the rankings I do? NO they don't as does ANY council member ever ask to see the ballots for the awards NO. Do any council members weekly try to change Mayhem cards or is it left up to me to do by myself as the council doesn't vote on everything as it doesn't matter if your for or against this the thought that a common sense thing would need a council vote before I can use it next month is absurd to me.
Of course if you feel like a vote should be started go to it but yeah the council is never interested enough in these things to stop me from doing them the way I best see fair in the last 11 months so I didn't feel I needed to go to them when I thought up this rule due to the Alyssa Phoenix situation.
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Post by phoenix on Dec 2, 2007 1:42:36 GMT -5
So is it really our fault that we didn't vote the other way around as you see it should have gone...so tell me this if we don't give a good enough reason as to why we voted that way will our vote be counted or be discounted? Answer this and I'll keep quiet about this from now on.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 2, 2007 1:52:21 GMT -5
Yes well maybe I'm wrong but a MONTHLY award means it's somebody who did the most in the month.
Ashley Danyell was 3-0 going into Do or Die for the month before she lost via forfeit to Alyssa. Clearly she had a better month then Gwen, Viper, Laura & yes Alyssa at least to somebody who doesn't forget shit after a week as I remember what happened all month & so should most of the rest of the roster.
And no if you give a bullshit reason it won't be counted & if it's early enough before the deadline I will reply back to you to ask for either a futher explanation if you give a simple (I like her) to make sure people are actually thinking more then 2 seconds before putting down the first name that comes to mind.
As yes it is the 7's fault for not paying attention & giving it to somebody who clearly didn't deserve it. If it was a close vote, like in the past with certain catagories, I wouldn't of spoken up like I did now as at least it was close but when clearly 7 people failed the process of "thinking" before voting yes I feel as owner it's my job to try to make sure things that happen in the RWC are fair & those who earn awards get them. I can't take away Alyssa's award since the 7 did vote for her but in the new rule I hope to stop any bad call from this happening ever again as again this is no fault of Sara as she was MIA 3/4's of the month & she rplied her ass off for the PPV even with Ashley no showing so in no way is this to put Alyssa down but a monthly award should honor somebody who was the best in the month. Ashley being 3-0 in tag matches & wrestling every show of the month before losing to Alyssa hell you can't do much better then she did so it's either people not paying attention OR people voting for her because they are friends as the only two reasons I see as to why the 7 voted for her.
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Post by steve on Dec 2, 2007 7:17:09 GMT -5
That's right bitches TWO of my matches are tied for second HELL YEAH!
And I got second for roleplayer of the month for Elijah Pryor....
This has GOT to mean something
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Post by chstevens on Dec 2, 2007 14:59:31 GMT -5
newcomer of the month. not bad at all.
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Post by davidarnold on Dec 3, 2007 15:42:16 GMT -5
First off, I have to say this because it's too freaking hilarious to not pass up on. How dare 6 of you try to rape my fiance?!... lmao, sorry, but when I saw that X had put that part there, I had to comment on it
Anywayz.... Ok, I have to do this because I feel like my opinion should be thrown in on all of this seeing as how I'm one of the 7 that voted for Alyssa. Yes, I know I should have voted for Ashley seeing as how she's my fiance, but listen to my reasoning.
When I vote for Best Woman of the Month or Best Tag Team or anything like that, I look at the matches alone like I'm sure others do as well. Let's look at Ashley's matches this month. She was in a 6 person tag team match where she was humilated for most of the match by Viper before the match ended with Jovah getting the pinfall on Gwen Rose. I wouldn't really call that a good performance on any standard. Then came the Strange Bedfellows match. During the match, Ashley took most of the abuse for her team from all 3 of their opponents, including almost being pinned many times and almost tapping out at one point, before being able to get out of the match that was later won with Rex getting the pinfall. Once again, not that great of a performance. Then comes the third Mayhem, the 2 on 1 handicapped match. The only problem is that since Jovah wouldn't let her out of her locker room, she wasn't involved in the match at all which saw Rex defeating Prince. Therefore she was 3-0, but didn't really have an impact on any of the matches.
That then lead into Do or Die, which I shouldn't have to explain why Alyssa ended up better then Ashley there as well, whether Ashley was attacked or not. Plus, in the only Women's title match of the month, Alyssa won the Women's title. Whether it was by forfeit or not, the title still changed hands. Therefore, even though Alyssa didn't wrestle all week and Ashley went 3-0 in tag team matches, on the match that really did decide who would be Woman of the Month in my head, Alyssa won the match and became my vote.
That's my defense as to why I voted for Sara and I already told Ashley about it, who although wasn't happy about it, she understood the reasoning and didn't let it get to her. After all, it's just one month, Ashley will be back after the holidays and she'll have another chance to be Woman of the Month then.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on Dec 4, 2007 1:43:21 GMT -5
Thank you David for explaining yourself, as since it's clear you had deep throught in this I know at least 1 of the 7 took longer then 2 seconds before putting in a name.
While I still disagree with the outcome I 100 % respect you for explaining your reasonings this fully as if you had the time it seems to me that you'd make a fair council member as your mood issues would be the only thing stopping me from wanting to start a vote but since we've had people like Dare, Big T, Anthony, Sara & Cameron on the council for long periods of time I'm sure you'll fit in fine.
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Post by The British Barbarian on Dec 4, 2007 3:27:08 GMT -5
My reasoning is that matches that include men's divisions go towards the Wrestler of the Month award (which Ashley would have been close to if she'd have been competing for a men's title), and only specific Women's divison matches count. The huge Women's match of the month was at Do or Die, and Alyssa won.
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Post by davidarnold on Dec 4, 2007 21:51:29 GMT -5
That was also part of my reasoning as well, I just forgot that part lol. Good job Prince.
As for the other thing X, time issues hopefully won't be there soon once we get a laptop for our apartment, meaning no more school computers lol, plus the mood issues are only every now and then, but that's just life. After all, everyone has their off days here and there. Plus, no matter what my mood, I definently wouldn't let it affect anything RWC related as has been witness with my rp's that continue to come. We'll save that whole idea though for when Ashley and I finally get a computer for our apartment. After all, you think that we're hard to beat rp wise as it is, just wait until we have access to a computer more then we do now and the ability to save rp's as well lol
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Post by phoenix on Dec 5, 2007 2:31:25 GMT -5
I agree with POD...when it does come to the Women's award...I look at specific matches that only involve women as there wasn't that many this past month I only looked at the PPV match which Alyssa won. Granted there were women involved in several other matches such as the tag matches of the Lady Spartans, Viper's matches and even Ashley's matches but they also involved males which would broaden the category to Wrestler of the Month.
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Post by Dan Sullivan on Mar 29, 2008 1:48:20 GMT -5
bump
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